Franz (Franciscus) Rosentreter

Franz (Franciscus) Rosentreter

Male Abt 1762 - Bef 1872  (~ 109 years)

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  • Name Franz (Franciscus) Rosentreter 
    Birth Abt 1762 
    Gender Male 
    Death Bef 1872 
    Notes 
    • It is very likely that Franz is a descendant of Martin [I0411]. Records for the area that he was born were destroyed during the Second World War, however DNA testing indicates that he was related at about 2-3 generations prior.
    • 90% Certainty that Peter is his father.

      NOTE: Franz's parents cannot be 100% identified, because both Lichnau (responsible for Abrau) and Kamin (responsible for Damerau) have no baptismal records preserved for this period.

      Correspondence with Koshneiderei Mailing Group

      9 Aptil 2021

      Uli

      I like this a lot!!!

      OK, if we assume that the marriage record to Marianna Neumann is correct, his age is 44 in 1806, so born in 1762.

      Peter (his potential father) [I0799] *1737 is missing from the records for a while, so it is highly likely that he was still in Lichnau.

      We don't know his wife's name and the first children appear with Peter *abt 1771 or 1772 & George * 1772 in Lichnau...

      We could assume the following (hypothetical):

      Peter (at about age 24) married NK about 1760 and had the following five children before the Lichnau 1773 Tax list (under age 12 at this date, making the four sons and a daughter) by which time they had moved back to Lichnau.
      Franz [I2193] *1762
      male child
      female child
      Peter *1771
      George *1772
      They also had two other children after 1772, Jacob & Barbara
      So the mothers birthing years would be from 1762-1780 (18 years) which is reasonable.

      Rog

      > U Bonin (08.04.2021 13:57:00):
      >
      >
      > Hello Rog!
      >
      >
      > If you assume that this Franz Rosentreter belongs to the Rosentreter family from the Koschneiderei, there is only one possibility that he is the son of Peter R. - in your data:
      >
      > I0799 Peter Rosentreter M 1737-01-27 1803-10-06
      >
      > This hypothesis is supported by the fact that there was already a Franz in the other families or that the parents in question are too young or too old.
      >
      > In the tax list ("contribution register") of 1773 for Lichnau, Peter and his wife, four sons and a daughter under 12 live in the household. I assume that Franz was one of them.
      >Uli

    • Information on next two generations down from "Koschneiderei" mailing list discussions.
    • 44 Years Old when he married Marianna Poznan Project
    Person ID I2193  Rosentreter_Tree
    Last Modified 4 Feb 2022 

    Father Peter Rosentreter,   b. 27 Jan 1737, Lichnowy, Chojnice County, Pomeranian Voivodeship, Poland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 6 Oct 1803, Lichnowy, Chojnice County, Pomeranian Voivodeship, Poland Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 66 years) 
    Relationship Birth 
    Mother NK NK,   b. Abt 1737,   d. Bef 1847  (Age ~ 109 years) 
    Relationship Birth 
    Marriage Abt 1761 
    Family ID F0302  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 1 Agnes Warmke,   b. Abt 1775,   d. Bef 1796  (Age ~ 20 years) 
    Children 
     1. Laurentius Augustinus Rosentreter,   b. 19 Jul 1793, Dąbrówka, Sępólno County, Kuyavian-Pomeranian Voivodeship, Poland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 18 Mar 1798, Dąbrówka, Sępólno County, Kuyavian-Pomeranian Voivodeship, Poland Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 4 years)  [Birth]
    Last Modified 5 Dec 2020 
    Family ID F0662  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 2 Anna Marianna Schultz,   b. 4 Mar 1779, Dąbrówka, Sępólno County, Kuyavian-Pomeranian Voivodeship, Poland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 13 Jul 1806, Dąbrówka, Sępólno County, Kuyavian-Pomeranian Voivodeship, Poland Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 27 years) 
    Marriage Abt 1796 
    Children 
     1. Marianna Barbara Rosentreter,   b. 8 Aug 1796, Więcbork, Sępólno County, Kuyavian-Pomeranian Voivodeship, Poland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Bef 1906  (Age < 109 years)  [Birth]
     2. Carolus (Carl) Rosentreter,   b. 1800, Gostycyn, Tuchola County, Kuyavian-Pomeranian Voivodeship, Poland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Bef 1910  (Age < 109 years)  [Birth]
     3. Catharina Elisabeth Rosentreter,   b. 16 Mar 1803, Dąbrówka, Sępólno County, Kuyavian-Pomeranian Voivodeship, Poland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Bef 1913  (Age < 109 years)  [Birth]
     4. Anna Marianna Rosentreter,   b. 3 Apr 1806, Dąbrówka, Sępólno County, Kuyavian-Pomeranian Voivodeship, Poland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Bef 1916  (Age < 109 years)  [Birth]
    Last Modified 6 Feb 2022 
    Family ID F0663  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 3 Marianna Neumann,   b. 1776, Silno, Chojnice County, Pomeranian Voivodeship, Poland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 2 Nov 1849, Obrowo, Tuchola County, Kuyavian-Pomeranian Voivodeship, Poland Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 73 years) 
    Marriage 6 Oct 1806  Kamień Krajeński, Sępólno County, Kuyavian-Pomeranian Voivodeship, Poland Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Notes 
    • Catholic Family
    Children 
     1. Anna Marianna Rosentreter,   b. 3 May 1807, Kamień Krajeński, Sępólno County, Kuyavian-Pomeranian Voivodeship, Poland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Bef 1917  (Age < 109 years)  [Birth]
     2. Gertrud Marianna Rosentreter,   b. 7 Mar 1809, Wałdowo, Sępólno County, Kuyavian-Pomeranian Voivodeship, Poland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Bef 1919  (Age < 109 years)  [Birth]
     3. Gertrud Elisabeth Rosentreter,   b. 15 Feb 1812, Kamień Krajeński, Sępólno County, Kuyavian-Pomeranian Voivodeship, Poland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Bef 1922  (Age < 109 years)  [Birth]
     4. August Mathias Rosentreter,   b. 23 Aug 1813, Kamień Krajeński, Sępólno County, Kuyavian-Pomeranian Voivodeship, Poland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 3 Feb 1906, Szubin, Nakło County, Kuyavian-Pomeranian Voivodeship, Poland Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 92 years)  [Birth]
     5. Joannes (Johann) Jacobus Rosentreter,   b. 4 Jul 1817, Kamień Krajeński, Sępólno County, Kuyavian-Pomeranian Voivodeship, Poland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 18 May 1886, Wałdowo, Sępólno County, Kuyavian-Pomeranian Voivodeship, Poland Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 68 years)  [Birth]
    Documents
    Franz Rosentreter & Marianna Neumann - Marriage Record.jpg
    Franz Rosentreter & Marianna Neumann - Marriage Record.jpg
    Last Modified 6 Jun 2021 
    Family ID F0646  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsMarriage - 6 Oct 1806 - Kamień Krajeński, Sępólno County, Kuyavian-Pomeranian Voivodeship, Poland Link to Google Earth
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  • Documents
    Franz Rosentreter - Tree
    Franz Rosentreter - Tree